Comments on No Man's Land?: The quintessential "mallu"

U STUPID LUNATIC

2011-08-27T12:14:34.659+01:00

U STUPID LUNATIC

you hit the bulls eye SG! I have had troubles grow...

2010-09-21T07:59:57.308+01:00

you hit the bulls eye SG! I have had troubles growing up in our God's Own Mallu Land - couldnt wait to leave the place, in the name of higher studies. Being a 'mallu woman' I can throw light into why one is considered as an easy catch - we mallus have fewer moral dilemmas being less religious in many ways. Btw, we also tend to giveup on ourself in the names of marriages and relationships . However, we also have the courage to pursue a relationship. Furthermore, most mallu girls discover that non-mallu men have less complex psyche then their mallu counterparts, so she probably would go to any extent to keep her non-mallu catch - some win. some loose. Many mallu girls who leave homes to pursue a career have bigger family commitments and dont see a marriage in the near future, so a casual sex is a vent to her human desires. We, mallu women have the balls to go after things. I have reached a personal best shunning lot of prejudices - just being a mallu primarily - but also having had the chance to leave the mallu-land before it completely affected my psyche. My conclusion is that the social revolution setforth in the 50s triggered the egalitarian trends in Kerala, but got screwed by the consumerism that snow-balled driven by our gulf-remittance! I visit Kerala just to keep my folks happy, and for the lush greenness . Oh, by the way I still remain impressed by mallu alternate media.

Very Interesting! You are almost near the point bu...

2010-06-29T11:22:59.115+01:00

Very Interesting! You are almost near the point but why stop short of it? If kerala mean are like this why not their fair sex? So that means there is a lot of undercurrent under those skirts waiting to explode? May be we can see a red revolution at least here

You have put this whole topic in a vnice candid ma...

2010-06-12T09:43:06.368+01:00

You have put this whole topic in a vnice candid manner laced with humor. In a place called Belgaum (North Karnataka) there were a couple of theatres (SriKrishna,Ritz) that were famous for the adult films perennially showing Malayalam films interlaced with English Erotic films in a while. If not the quintessential malayallee , his erotic films was found in nondescript places. The globalization effect of malayallee was quite apparant in the 70s itself.

This might be off topic, but wanted to put it afte...

2010-05-19T09:17:13.549+01:00

This might be off topic, but wanted to put it after reading

I think something similar to this is they way media portray peoples drinking habit in Kerala. Every festive season they come up with the fact and figures. And In Kerala, we only have Bev Co which is the sole seller and then you are bound to see queues. In Bangalore there are hundreds of wine shop and most of them are crowded too, but ppl still say Malayalees drink more.

I was looking for an article like this for a long ...

2010-05-15T20:43:32.367+01:00

I was looking for an article like this for a long time...and this to be written by a guy is very very nice....keep it up....

hey dat was a good post......in the end most of th...

2010-05-08T14:54:17.701+01:00

hey dat was a good post......in the end most of the mallu men are silent vayanokis......but to talk as if dew r the only ones is wrong

i agree with you totally. there might be good and ...

2010-03-29T19:34:15.000+01:00

i agree with you totally. there might be good and bad people everywhere. but if you are a woman and if you have stayed in kerala and out of kerala you would know the difference immediately.
I say in jest that I throw away my duppatta as soon as I cross Walayae checkpost and put it back only when I cross it on the way back :-)

Scorpio: Looks like this post of yours will contin...

2010-03-24T01:55:16.073Z

Scorpio: Looks like this post of yours will continue to interest readers :) hence I thought it is appropriate to post this link....

even though I do not fully agree with the author, do have a look at it... guess it is sometimes good to see Kerala through an outsider's eye than with the ever cynical attitude of a Malayalee...

http://www.seanpaulkelley.com/?p=620

If you are Indian, or of Indian descent, I must preface this post with a clear warning: you are not going to like what I have to say. My criticisms may be very hard to stomach. But consider them as the hard words and loving advice of a good friend. Someone who’s being honest with you and wants nothing from you. These criticisms apply to all of India except Kerala and the places I didn’t visit, except that I have a feeling it applies to all of India, except as I mentioned before, Kerala.

nd since he does have a good opinion on Kerala, my ever cynical mind did make me wonder if he is married to a Keralite:)

hi scorpiogenius,i understand that my comment was...

2010-03-14T21:05:58.374Z

hi scorpiogenius,i understand that my comment was somewhat biased.But do u realise that comparing and talking bad of other states doesnot add glory to the current kerala's picture.
Then regarding the question u posed, it is not challenging at all, u have selected the extremes, UP,Bihar and other rural places vs kerala, there is no choice here. remember apples with apples, please... No woman with integrity and power to think will opt for the rural states that u commented, even if it is this birth or next one, spare if she is an ignorant dumb ass or a motivated social reformer.kerala is safer compared to those states.but that doesnot make kerala the best."
i recall something my friend told me once.
"if one person calls u a horse's ass,ignore it. if two people call u a horse's ass,may be there is a consipiracy going on, but if three people call u a horse's ass, better invest in a saddle.."thought it is high time keralites do something to prevent themselves be labelled as perverts or selfish or leg pullers....and all the best scorpiogenius on your attempt to stand for ur state, despite all its negatives.

Lovely post. Well written and well said.

2010-03-10T13:13:15.435Z

Lovely post. Well written and well said.

@ Happy Kitten, I wouldn't worry about rants ...

2010-03-07T11:19:49.824Z

@ Happy Kitten, I wouldn't worry about rants of people who has serious issues with themselves and their identity, like the commentor just above you. Constructive criticism is always welcome, it is one important way of improving ourselves; and you have made one crucial point: Keralites and their ubiquitous presence have resulted in this stereotypinc assessments and introspections.

PS: re the issues with commenting here, I'll look into it and see if I could do something. Thanks a ton for letting me know :-)

@ Lunatic Kerala, having some real lack of life, aren't you mate? Cut-n-paste the same vulgarities 100 times won't make a jabber true. I guess you've exclusively identified yourself in your twaddle, get help! and quick!

@ Agnosia, Well I understand what you said, and I do concur.

But I've told, making sweeping statements is not acceptable in any case, especially when addressing a whole state. I see a difference in the Zachariah statement and Ms.Roy's complaint, though both may connote same meaning in a broader sense. There is general acceptance that when it comes to the behaviour towards the fairer sex and towards the subject of sex, malayalees tend to be reprobatic. Kerala society IS at fault but talking like Zacharia or like the one Lunatic just below your comment is vilification in a wrong way.

One thing I can tell, our society is not the worse. I've seen for myself how women are treated in Orissa, Jharkhand and the likes and one thing which makes me proud of Kerala, inspite of agreeing to and accepting your viewpoints, is the way women are empowered in our state.

One Q: You have choice to be born as a woman in your next life and you're given the choice to live in rural Orissa, Bihar or UP...will you accept it over Kerala? Be careful what you chose, and please let me know your answer and WHY. ;) [I've mentioned the difference b/w Bangalore/Delhi/Mumbai and Kerala w.r.t the cosmopolitan character and lifestyle, so you may better compare apples with apples please] :)

@ Charakan, exactly! At least we don't bash women in public and kill female infants or still have policemen who smash the face of a helpless woman in fromt of camera.

@ Mirage, thanks for your thoughts. I beleive we have to go a long way before thinking about the freedom in the West but still, it is possible to enjoy life to the fullest by staying withing the frameworks of our culture. Once our society is properly educated about these ' moral bullshitting' you can see a difference.

The last comment from Lunatickerala reminded me of...

2010-03-07T10:02:18.123Z

The last comment from Lunatickerala reminded me of similar comments seen in the forums here in Kuwait.. the Keralite is ever present in good numbers everywhere and hence he/she becomes a good specimen for character study..no other state offers such an opportunity...

this mass migration from Kerala does show the story state of affairs in the State and some of these criticism can be taken constructively... but still the following comes to my mind..

"Mangayulla mavellalle kallerayathullu"

Kerala being a literate State is a complete misnom...

2010-03-04T14:51:52.646Z

Kerala being a literate State is a complete misnomer.Highest suicide rates. Highest alcohol and drugs consumption. Highest divorce rates. Highest road accidents. Largest mentally deranged population. Highest unemployment. Most backward in infrastructure and development. Largest sexual perverts, ogling at tourists. Highest sex scandals. Highest women abuses. Largest anti social elements called goondas. A so called 100% literate Keralite who never went out of the State does not know what a subway is.

Kerala is a big lunatic asylum as declared by Swami Vivekananda, with barefooted mallus walking half naked in lungis, spitting in public, peeing on walls and honking proudly in their small match box cars. Stone age tribals still living in coconut jungles and die falling into pot holes. By just reading some alphabets does not make one civilized or literate. Their king Mahabali was a demon.

Arrogance, pride, hypocrisy, vanity, insolence, haughtiness, lust, greed, anger, jealousy, killings, family fights, adultery are all demoniac traits exhibited by them and even promoted by their television serials. A Bihari maybe filthy outside but lunatic mallus are more dangerous, with an arrogant, pervert, hypocrite and filthy mind.

good work scorpiogenius, but i have to oppose u on...

2010-03-01T13:12:08.695Z

good work scorpiogenius, but i have to oppose u on ur concluding statement . u cannot stand for one and say against the other , because what ms.Roy and mr.zach meant was the same...they both said the truth aloud. kerala is a land of perverts... (whether it is sexual or any other field).
being born and raised as a malayalee girl, i can spot the difference. can any "mallu" girl take the challenge and walk through a place crowded with 2 or more mallu "gentlemen"(40+) ,wearing a dress sewed to perfection to their body size and shape, with no bag or clip board or book or pleated dupattas to cover her already covered bosoms,without getting intimidated or teased or bullied or stared at by those folks.No, because keeping apart a very few men with good moral disciplines, malayalee men believe that women are just item pieces meant for pleasure,to be stared at, to be drooled at, to be fantasized with all vulgarity in front of their friends or in their private moments .
may be this is true with men all over the nation, but the malayalees try to show that out at all instances without any shame.
i totally agree with u regarding what ur kannadika friends told u. what comes to peoples mind when they hear of Kerala is the "mallu aunty"concept. media does have a great role to play, but our media reflect our culture. looking back to the old malayalam movies, there was a time when we could not see a single movie without a rape scene, or a bath scene or a bed room scene, or a half naked bar dance .
this is what others see and understand of kerala. while talking abt the traditional costumes, i was mocked once by a group of multilingual indians, because they thought the traditional dress of keralite is mundum jackettum."how do u girls go around like that without a shame exposing every possible body part like that"this idea they got , i believe from the old busty fisherwomen/servant/"poor woman who did not have money to buy clothes" movies.. thanks for the media
i believe it is high time malayalee men stop thinking of themselves as educated mr.know alls and rather act knowledgible. "what we give out come back to us " is all i have to say.
i know this is like demeaning the whole mallu guys, but dear friends it is a fact and truth wont lie hidden for long...
well i do know that this is not gonna happen, keralites,they oppose any change.if the society does not oppose it, the govt oppose it, otherwise the anti govt oppose it , or the green flags or the saffron flags or the white or the u name it...oppose it... Swami Vivekananda got it right....

yeah I'm also a fan of Rajni(after watching s...

2010-02-09T07:49:51.687Z

yeah I'm also a fan of Rajni(after watching sivaji.He is really down to earth.).You are right scorpy.SI movies are at least realistic and close to heart.See where else you can see a veyil,Rithu,classmates,nadodigal etc :)

There was a salute in my hostel called the MH salu...

2010-02-02T15:03:04.415Z

There was a salute in my hostel called the MH salute. Wish I could do that now ;)
I have wanted to write on this issue for a long time now. But have refrained due to the obvious response.
"What do YOU know?" ("YOU" cos I'm a guy.. so I wouldn't know anything).

The worst part is.. it is always Kerala versus Bangalore or Kerala versus Bombay.
Never Kerala versus Karnataka or Kerala versus Maharashtra.

Not that I approve the latter types of comparisons either. Perverts are everywhere from Shankhumukham to Somalia to San Fransico. I don't believe it is a state wise phenomenon.

In Paul Zacharia's case he didn't specify men. Listen to Mr. know all's answers:
"You said Malayalis suffer from two diseases: politics and sexual perversion. How did Malayalis react to this statement?

P.Z: The thinking minority agreed with it. But the silent majority suffers from these two diseases, and they indulge in moral policing. "

So only thinking people aren't perverts? Or is it like they agree that they too are perverts? Also politics is a disease???

All these bloody pseudo intellectuals and arm chair activists take some random screwed up stereotype and harp on it like talking parrots. As Jesus said, when you judge others, you are judging yourself. S if malayalees are sex starved so are you, your father and your son Mr. Zachariah. They all belong to the same class. And for Ms. Roy, please don't come to Kerala.

Please live in the land where (you think) all men look only at your face.

@ Nona, we'd better be careful while preachin...

2010-02-02T10:38:59.235Z

@ Nona, we'd better be careful while preaching ogling and teasing but I do agree upto a limit its fun and harmless. But some people tend to possess the jackal's eyes and tend to cross the limit of this 'fun', its then when things start to get ugly.

and about the hits, yes! :) A new post always takes my Google Analytics to 3 figures for a few days but I think this one is generating a good few hits. Am not complaining.. :) Sex indeed sells.

@ Ashwathy, I always tend to see both sides of the coin on any matter but here it is specifically to the stereotyping of Kerala men and women. My point is that while there may be some element of truth, it is not like how Mr. Paul Zacharia has interpreted it. You think our society is sex-starved as he said? I honestly, never felt so and Kerala women are much more gracious and free when compared to the Indian women outside the Metros.

@ Praveen, I'm not mad at the media or the stereotype but when someone like Zacharia takes a potshot at out society in a wrong way I can't help responding. Using 'perverts' and words like that isn't too amusing.

@ Anish Thomas, Exactly! India has to move a lot forward when it comes to sexual freedom, not just Kerala. And about my Oriya friends, lol, Rajni sahib and Vijayakanth sahib may not be the most handsome of the lot but shhhhhhh...we shouldn't be saying that :P

PS: I'm a mad fan of Rajnikanth, don't get me wrong. South Indian films stay close to real life and some people see a lot of 'opportunities' when watching them on silverscreen, you know what I mean? :P

That was a bold take and informative too :) Dint...

2010-02-02T08:58:26.984Z

That was a bold take and informative too :)

Dint know that the mallus had such a stinking reputation.. and a few of them does behave in such manner as to deserve this.
But then I guess the state is just like any other state…it has its good and bad… nd Men still nurtures a misplaced “ego” and some women continue to be prudish.. but then I think it is also the mallus who have taken the first step to change.. it is more of their women who have taken the bold step to venture into the big bad world much earlier than her counterparts in other states (be it for education or job).. nd they are a much happier lot I should say :)

As for Zachariah, wish he had taken a different stance…. He should have fought for his freedom of expression instead of branding every mallu as a pervert.. No party has the right to take law into it’s own hands.

Arundhati Roy, maybe speaking from her own experience and Kerala cities cannot be compared to a city like Bombay…one has to admit that a girl will feel more safe in Bombay. Getting into a crowded bus in TVM used to be a nightmare.. don’t know how it is now…. I am not sure if all those safety pins have changed some of those perverts :)

Where did the "starvation" story emanate...

2010-02-02T02:47:02.147Z

Where did the "starvation" story emanate? It was a few years back when a colleague said, "You men in the south are better behaving than the north". She grew up in Delhi. It was a revelation for me. I always believed the starvation story.

There is something that goes against the mallu men! I say this from experience. Ogling is also an art. But I have seen men staring at women with a view to make them uncomfortable or at times, with almost tongue hanging out. In real life, they wouldn't go beyond this act. But, this sends out a wrong message!

On a lighter note, I would like to know how many hits you get on this article. Like you said, "Sex sells!". ;) I'm also amused by the "women on top" comment and especially your explanation to the whole phenomenon. I think your roommates may have been harboring fantasies! ;)

I can point out a lot of places where I almost fell down laughing. Nice one!

I like the way u've touched on all sides of th...

2010-02-01T16:27:34.800Z

I like the way u've touched on all sides of the argument one go. But that also made me feel u were rambling on at some point without completely keeping to one side.

True, 'mallu' males have a terrible reputation and I realised this only after i moved out of kerala. apparently they are supposed to be the most lecherous kind. and mallu females, on the opposite, are supposed to be docile, quiet and prudish. funny stereotypes tho.... but i dont completely disagree either... to an extent they are true.

But yes I agree to ur point... men in other parts of India are as bad, why discriminate against just keralites? women is keralalive in a traditional orthodox society, yes... but i think they are a lot better off than women in many other parts of the world. its true!

A Totally BOLD post..its a worrying stereotype eve...

2010-02-01T14:27:41.445Z

A Totally BOLD post..its a worrying stereotype even I've come across.. People classify 'mallus' as sex mad. The funny part is that this is done mostly by people who jerk off watching mall porn...
someone as learned as zachariah cud've watched his words or framed it in a better way...
but one thing, what the left student activists did with rajmohan unnithan was not right..

I heard a lot of 'hot' stories (high profi...

2010-02-01T12:46:20.193Z

I heard a lot of 'hot' stories (high profile sluts and i don't have any problem calling those by that name) about banglore and manglore.In chennai everone knows whats happening in many resorts in outskirts and how many peoples get caught in raid every week.No other regional movies can match up with dual meaning dialogs\skinshow(i'm talking about main stream movies) in bollywood.I think compared to other states our people are educated and our media's are expert in updating and flashing these kinda news.As you said our community has been mistaken for lot of wrong reasons.On the top of that we have morons like Zacharia's ,who don't have any license for his tongue.We are equally bad and good as others.......

lol @ bihari and orissa...Even i was asked a lot by north Indian friends, how your ugly fat(they often mistaken vijayakanth\sharth kumar movie has mallu movies) grand father look like heroes get cute fair girls .....